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Title: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on March 04, 2019, 05:35:21 PM
out of this 8 who takes it?

brandon
roden
philsulina
rolley
Australian josh
kuklo the (old) kid
ramo
William


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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: julio852 on March 04, 2019, 10:32:17 PM
I think phil is done and roden will get more 2x mr olympias.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: kippp on March 05, 2019, 12:40:08 AM
If Phil fully recovered from surgery and he can control stomach then Phil. Him coming back will create hype kinda like Jay coming back after losing to Dexter. Phil wins, if he cannot control stomach then Roden wins. If Brandon stays with camel crew and continue to bring his legs up he can make it a battle with Roden.
Kuklo need to pull it together before his time runs out. He has the look to represent bodybuilding, like Jay. Roden keeps to himself, need to get out and do more interviews promoting he?s mr Olympia. Guest pose and do seminars. Jay, Phil and Ronnie all were great at marketing themselves.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: el testosteron on March 05, 2019, 01:00:06 AM
If William were only 2 inches taller.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: djufo on March 05, 2019, 11:15:12 AM
I have my eyes on the Brazilian, Rafael Brandao. He's very young, looks perfect and Brazilians have the bodybuilding science to the single protein molecule.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: vansville2010 on March 05, 2019, 12:01:45 PM
DONT KNOW HARDLY ANY OF THEM BUT WHOEVER HAS TEH BEST GENETICS WILL WIN

A MAN WITH BETTER GENTICS CAN TRAIN 1/3RD AS HARTD AND OFTEN AND DIET 1/3RD AS HARD AND STILL WHOP HIS ASS

GENETICS ARE KING

GENETICS INCLUDE RESPONSE TO TRAINING AND RESPONSE TO HORMONES

Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: vincenzo on March 05, 2019, 01:15:21 PM
I have my eyes on the Brazilian, Rafael Brandao. He's very young, looks perfect and Brazilians have the bodybuilding science to the single protein molecule.

agree that rafeal looks great now. perfect like you said. was really impressed with his showing at the arnolds

but i feel that once he starts chasing size, his aesthetic look will change.

Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: vincenzo on March 05, 2019, 01:19:51 PM
If Phil fully recovered from surgery and he can control stomach then Phil. Him coming back will create hype kinda like Jay coming back after losing to Dexter. Phil wins, if he cannot control stomach then Roden wins. If Brandon stays with camel crew and continue to bring his legs up he can make it a battle with Roden.
Kuklo need to pull it together before his time runs out. He has the look to represent bodybuilding, like Jay. Roden keeps to himself, need to get out and do more interviews promoting he?s mr Olympia. Guest pose and do seminars. Jay, Phil and Ronnie all were great at marketing themselves.

agree 100%.

a gut-controlled heath will beat shawn rhoden
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: Davidtheman100 on March 05, 2019, 01:33:37 PM
Brandon or Williams, then my sleeper pick would be Roelly but he is behind those two for me.

Issue with Rhoden is that he peaked hard and is not getting any younger and the perfect scenario where Phil came in ?off? happened and he was able to capitalize. He is not special enough to show up like that and keep winning.

His joints are just too small to pack on the muscle needed to continuously compete with guys like Brandon and Williams who are blasting full force for the Olympia crown. Their potential and ceiling is much higher than Rhodens.

Kuclo will never do shit. Heath will always be competitive but he is not really versatile and always brings the same look and every time he steps on stage his flaws are the same and unfixable.

Of corse this is all my opinion but I do think both of those guys automatically show up top 5 at the very LEAST if they are on point. Then you will see in the future that it comes between those two for the crown. At this point going forward I also believe that Ramy is a much bigger threat than Phil. That is my prediction.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: djufo on March 06, 2019, 03:29:00 PM
I have my eyes on the Brazilian, Rafael Brandao. He's very young, looks perfect and Brazilians have the bodybuilding science to the single protein molecule.

agree that rafeal looks great now. perfect like you said. was really impressed with his showing at the arnolds

but i feel that once he starts chasing size, his aesthetic look will change.

Well, that's the beauty of the sport, and honestly I admire Brazilian bodybuilding because theyre exactly aware of what you say. I actually know very close about his ambitions and goals. My coach, who is a Brazilian athlete, is friends with Rafael Brandao so Im are of all the secrets and insights of the Brazilian bodybuilding community which is admirable.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: Bose88 on March 06, 2019, 10:37:07 PM
I have my eyes on the Brazilian, Rafael Brandao. He's very young, looks perfect and Brazilians have the bodybuilding science to the single protein molecule.

agree that rafeal looks great now. perfect like you said. was really impressed with his showing at the arnolds

but i feel that once he starts chasing size, his aesthetic look will change.

Well, that's the beauty of the sport, and honestly I admire Brazilian bodybuilding because theyre exactly aware of what you say. I actually know very close about his ambitions and goals. My coach, who is a Brazilian athlete, is friends with Rafael Brandao so Im are of all the secrets and insights of the Brazilian bodybuilding community which is admirable.

What are their insights?
What are their secrets?
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: crypt on March 24, 2019, 12:31:41 PM
roden or brandon, if igf1 is now good on stock at the Oxygen Gyms than one of those fellows over there def top 5 hitters,
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: liucas2 on March 24, 2019, 02:40:24 PM
I have my eyes on the Brazilian, Rafael Brandao. He's very young, looks perfect and Brazilians have the bodybuilding science to the single protein molecule.

agree that rafeal looks great now. perfect like you said. was really impressed with his showing at the arnolds

but i feel that once he starts chasing size, his aesthetic look will change.

Well, that's the beauty of the sport, and honestly I admire Brazilian bodybuilding because theyre exactly aware of what you say. I actually know very close about his ambitions and goals. My coach, who is a Brazilian athlete, is friends with Rafael Brandao so Im are of all the secrets and insights of the Brazilian bodybuilding community which is admirable.

What are their insights?
What are their secrets?

there are no secrets

im also from brazil and brazil isnt oxygen gym.

want to see the secret read the bible, most of you already did so nothing new
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: Gyp10ca on April 03, 2019, 11:34:36 AM
As much as I like Rhoden's physique, he is very lucky to have won the O at his age... finally dialed it in at the perfect time... but I don't think he will repeat.  My top pick for next Mr O has got to be Brandon Curry, dude is on a roll and has a similar body type to Rhoden but younger, fresher more 3D and pop to the muscle... legs lacking a bit in comparison, but everything else is damn near perfect.  Now what I think would make for one hell of a show, is if Ramy, Roelly, Curry and Rhoden all fucking nail it.... 2 mass monsters vs 2 aesthetic physiques.  In that case I think they would have to give it to Ramy... way too much mass to deal with.  IMO as long Ramy continues to work with Camel Crew he ain't gonna win shit... the protocol they seem so adamant on him following just doesn't seem to work for his type of body/genetics.  Where as Curry is more ectomorph and has likely always had a high metabolism and natural IGF, so in turn his body winds up responding much better to the same protocol used on Ramy... his body just soaks that shit up like a fucking sponge.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: warriorofzion on May 31, 2019, 03:51:38 AM
Brandon Curry
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: vivalafrizank on May 31, 2019, 04:57:23 AM
Honestly will be really close I can?t even believe Roden is the O

MOST EXCITING YEAR IN PRO BODYBUILDING FOR THR LAST 9 YEARS !!
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: TheShadow94 on May 31, 2019, 01:48:59 PM
Definitely no clear cut winner this year especially since we don't know what the final lineup will be, could be a couple of surprise competitors who show up trying to claim the Sandow. Phillip is looking very good for being this far out of the O I'm sure he hasn't made up his decision yet on whether or not he will compete at this years Olympia but it seems he is trying to see what he looks like first, if he decides to compete then it means the previous issue is solved and he's ready to take his title back if that's the case then I have him winning it. Brandon has the look that the IFBB is trying to promote, he has almost everything, size, fullness, roundness, good symmetry and proportions now even the lower half has nearly caught up to his upper body and he also has that freaky wow factor, doesn't really have any bad shots either he looks good in all of them, condition needs to be 5-10% better to be at his best with a little muscle added in some areas like the glutes and hamstrings. William is probably the most consistent of the names mentioned and is also probably the most complete along with Phillip, thick, dense, full, hard, 3D and separated, very dangerous but he need to be 100% not 95% or lower otherwise his height and frame will be exposed and he will lack that wow factor. Ramo, my God where do I even begin...this probably deserves a thread of it's own, he hasn't look his best since his pro debut at the 2013 New York Pro, his shape was still very good he just lacked that next level condition, his shape was very good at the 2014 Olympia too when he was working with DJ, he probably should have stayed with him but there was probably so much going on behind the scenes we don't know about, I kind of feel bad for Ramo really...seems like a lot of people took advantage of him, anyways his issues need more than a preps length to be fixed, I think Neil was wise enough to realize this. The current Mr. O Shawn, I won't say much about what's been going on recently for him as I don't want to sound negative towards anyone, I'm sure he will look good at the Olympia and can possibly defend is title depending on who shows up looking like what. Can't forget about the old man, they call him the Blade for a reason, we noticed some signs of slowing down at the Arnold, not even the bicep but what I noticed was when he hit his side chest his signature striations on the side of the quad were not there, could have been due to the training change since he switched coaches, he's back training with Chuck Glass and at his most recent guest posing even though he wasn't in contest condition you can see the side leg striations are back. It's not impossible for him to win again, and at 73 that would make him the oldest man to win it :D
I have to mention it because why not, I know he hates hearing it since it's mentioned almost as much as when Ramo is going to finally nail it, Cedric, If there was ever a time where he was going to show his full potential now is the time.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: RunningMan on June 02, 2019, 11:23:48 PM
I think of Phil returns it's his. If not Brandon.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: bril on June 03, 2019, 02:19:53 AM
Phil is done, the IFBB has moved in a new direction. The guys winning open at the shows recently all have small waists, they aren?t just going for biggest most muscular guy wins anymore. They are trying to make bodybuilding more appealing as numbers definitely appear to be down even at the expos as far as fans. I see Rhoden repeating, a pic I saw of him today he looks totally different than he did a few weeks ago at the guest posing. Charles Glass is doing wonders for him.

Ramy I don?t think will compete this year, Roelly still has the waist like Phil. Possible Curry will challenge, Jon Delarosa looked great yesterday too. I?m looking forward to seeing Flex Lewis on the open stage in 2020 though
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: TheShadow94 on June 03, 2019, 11:46:52 AM
Ya I haven't seen Jon look that striated and detailed in a long time, very happy for him, he's one of the nicest guys in the industry, I spoke to him many times and he's very humble and down to earth, he has so much potential and it looks like he found the right fit and formula. Can't wait to see Flex in the open as well, another 10-15 pounds of stage weight with his best condition will be tough to beat for anybody.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: vivalafrizank on June 03, 2019, 12:13:40 PM
Flex Lewis underrated AF. One of the best backs of all time humans.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: brock8282 on June 20, 2019, 04:28:06 AM
Brandon Curry 12 weeks out looking huge
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: TheShadow94 on June 29, 2019, 05:57:19 PM
Brandon Curry 12 weeks out looking huge

Impressive, quads came up, needs to add a bit more lean tissue to the glutes and hams and come in 5% sharper to be at his best, regardless if he does that or not he can still win the O.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: Bose88 on June 29, 2019, 06:23:15 PM
I have my eyes on the Brazilian, Rafael Brandao. He's very young, looks perfect and Brazilians have the bodybuilding science to the single protein molecule.

agree that rafeal looks great now. perfect like you said. was really impressed with his showing at the arnolds

but i feel that once he starts chasing size, his aesthetic look will change.

Well, that's the beauty of the sport, and honestly I admire Brazilian bodybuilding because theyre exactly aware of what you say. I actually know very close about his ambitions and goals. My coach, who is a Brazilian athlete, is friends with Rafael Brandao so Im are of all the secrets and insights of the Brazilian bodybuilding community which is admirable.

What are their insights?
What are their secrets?

there are no secrets

im also from brazil and brazil isnt oxygen gym.

want to see the secret read the bible, most of you already did so nothing new

Of course there aren't lol, djufo is the resident moron
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: Cyborg73 on July 23, 2019, 11:25:24 AM
Curry has to e the fav. now roden is out
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: tdawgs on July 23, 2019, 01:38:58 PM
With all thats happening and the compeititors who aren't in the comp this year leaves to who can just bring it this year.

Josh apparently has a health issue and has stepped down from competing this year..

Not sure what this olympia is going to be like with a lot of big names out.

In saying this, this should get those who are competing to really try and dial it for real as it is anyones on the day that brings it.

If credric brings it (not sure if he is in it this year) then it could be his.

From what they went with last year I'd say Curry winner and roelly second (if he brings that conditioning and tight waist).
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: Calves of Steel on August 21, 2019, 08:46:42 AM
Brandon Curry for sure. Or if he doesn't dial it in well and Roelly does it'll be Roelly.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on August 21, 2019, 05:31:36 PM
right now its between brandon dexjax and William

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: tdawgs on August 22, 2019, 11:06:22 AM
right now its between brandon dexjax and William

gh15 approved

Out of those three considering the IFBB ecosystem so to speak, I'm making the educated guess it will be dexjax if he brings what he brings.

Who I'd really like to see would be brandon, kuwait (with all that comes with it) has done his physique good.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on August 22, 2019, 09:10:20 PM
dex should win based on everything I seen but it all doesn't matter until the last 5 minutes before pre judge

brandon look blown nicely and large but lack foundation.. he lack the years of maturity of muscle and rely heavily on igf numbers being high.. lol he look very good but there is a difference in the muscle llevel between the 2

William is just looking too short and bulky

rolley can steal it maybe lol he always had the potential but could never really dial it to get that first spot maybe now.. but don't count on it lol

all the stars were aligned for kuklo the.. (old) kid lol but he just never brings it.. its really supposed ot be his time to shine but he just doesn't bring it.. the ifbb been waiting for him to nail it but he hasn't up to now

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: brock8282 on August 22, 2019, 10:46:25 PM
dex should win based on everything I seen but it all doesn't matter until the last 5 minutes before pre judge

brandon look blown nicely and large but lack foundation.. he lack the years of maturity of muscle and rely heavily on igf numbers being high.. lol he look very good but there is a difference in the muscle llevel between the 2

William is just looking too short and bulky

rolley can steal it maybe lol he always had the potential but could never really dial it to get that first spot maybe now.. but don't count on it lol

all the stars were aligned for kuklo the.. (old) kid lol but he just never brings it.. its really supposed ot be his time to shine but he just doesn't bring it.. the ifbb been waiting for him to nail it but he hasn't up to now

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Roelly at 100% would be hard to beat but roelly is never 100%. I like Curry for the O. I think he fixed his weak points and he is just so big and round while maintaining an ?aesthetically? pleasing physique. Dex will just look to small next to these guys. I would also love to see Luke Sandoe in the top 5. Love the way he trains and looks. Will be interesting to see if Kuklo steps up and brings a top 6 package. He sounded confident on Fouad Abaids podcast. Seems to be using being left out of the convo as motivation.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on August 23, 2019, 07:33:43 AM
^if dexjax get his legs to remain there once at 4%.. he wins it no matter how the others will look.. he just need the legs to remain there and its super super super hard at when you are an old 50 year old geezer..

can you imagin 50 year old o winner'? lol it will be unbelievable and will definitely put him alone on mount Olympus as the best bodybuilder to ever lived.. right now he shares it with ron and dorian to some degree but really reality is that if he wins this o he is the best bodybuild to ever live.. and will be alone at the top

its very hard to do at his age though

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: malfeasance on August 24, 2019, 01:03:57 AM
Dexter is a favorite.  Personally, I would love to see him be Mr. Olympia once again.  It's been 11 years.  After he won, the IFBB started rewarding wide waists and pregnant bellies.  The IFBB has come back around to his look.  Hopefully he has not blown his waist and belly up too much chasing wins during those 11 years.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: malfeasance on August 24, 2019, 01:06:17 AM
right now its between brandon dexjax and William

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So is bodybuilding now a black man's sport?
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: brock8282 on August 24, 2019, 01:27:29 AM
right now its between brandon dexjax and William

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So is bodybuilding now a black man's sport?

They definitely tend to be more round and fuller muscle bellies
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on August 24, 2019, 04:12:56 AM
right now its between brandon dexjax and William

gh15 approved

So is bodybuilding now a black man's sport?

not really.. its just a best respond to legit hormones sport..  not really sport but art..

white black yellow.. at the end of the day its who respond best to legit hormones and dedicated enough to do all the rest..

that individual also has high igf numbers

you need to look at society in general and understand that bodybuild follow patterns of society.. look how whites being looked upon.. look what happened to whites and you will see the implications into bodybuild too.. its everywhere.. its not only whites its ANYONE who look white even if they are not really considered white lol

we fought it and we fight it.. but the damage was done...

the chosen one is there to fix it but it will take a long time

its all connected

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: malfeasance on August 24, 2019, 04:15:14 AM
Top 5 last year at the Mr. O were black. 

Highest placing white was tenth for a paltry $16,000 prize.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: brock8282 on August 24, 2019, 04:24:50 AM
Top 5 last year at the Mr. O were black. 

Highest placing white was tenth for a paltry $16,000 prize.

I'd put money on Luke Sandoe in the top 6 and Kuklo in the top 10. So at least that is improvement. If Ian would have qualified, I would bet he would do top 10 as well.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: tdawgs on August 24, 2019, 09:30:55 AM
Kuklo had good hype when he started, hope he can do well, same with centopani.

back on igf levels, gh15 do you still agree on some of the signs a person has high levels of it naturally.

I remember you saying one of them was gap in front two teeth. A good indicator is the past Mr O's

- Arnold
- Haney
- Ronnie (before he got it fixed)
- Dexjax
- Phillip

Also the abs are separated from the front.

Special mention to Kai as he also as the tooth thing.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on August 24, 2019, 10:53:48 AM
^yes

and centopantis is done... his o days never really started and most likely wont

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: el testosteron on August 25, 2019, 12:48:31 AM
right now its between brandon dexjax and William

gh15 approved

So is bodybuilding now a black man's sport?
There have been top men's bodybuilding pros from every background except Asian and Indian, so to me it's a non Asian and non Indian man's sport.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: Thijs on August 27, 2019, 11:12:17 PM
I like flex Lewis, his arms are insane. Maybe next year :)

This year brandon seems to have good chance at it, dude looks massive yet austeticly pleasing.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: tdawgs on September 13, 2019, 12:32:13 PM
After seeing more media on the competitors,

who we thinking will take out the O? also 212 & classic.

Dexjax has the skeletor face going on. Could be a good sign for whats underneath.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qOQJMx11vA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qOQJMx11vA
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 13, 2019, 03:33:03 PM
dexjax problem is legs at current age.. how to keep them.. if he does he will do very good

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: tdawgs on September 13, 2019, 06:50:57 PM
its always the legs at the later years. Hopefully he brings it with the legs as well.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: DaddyRabbit on September 13, 2019, 09:56:54 PM
dexjax problem is legs at current age.. how to keep them.. if he does he will do very good

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How come legs are 1st to go quads hamstrings largest muscles in body?
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: metan20 on September 13, 2019, 11:41:24 PM
I have my eyes on the Brazilian, Rafael Brandao. He's very young, looks perfect and Brazilians have the bodybuilding science to the single protein molecule.

agree that rafeal looks great now. perfect like you said. was really impressed with his showing at the arnolds

but i feel that once he starts chasing size, his aesthetic look will change.
Perfect. I always say this for my brazillian's friends
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 14, 2019, 10:24:19 AM
dexjax problem is legs at current age.. how to keep them.. if he does he will do very good

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How come legs are 1st to go quads hamstrings largest muscles in body?

because you walk on them.. even the laziest individual out there use their legs and a lot.. but its in the blood flow more than anything else.. legs limbs blood flow is just not at its prime when you get old..  leg go first if you had them to begin with.. some never had them to begin with

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 15, 2019, 01:48:05 PM
dexjax proved without a doubt he is the best bodybuilder to ever walk earth

congrats to brandon curry.. finally brought up the legs lol when he was a kido in 2007-2008 I really couldn't see mr o in him but with oxygen gymnasium.. a wife that is all about fitness and stable environment including the helpful fact of being American.. unlike ramo.. he is the winner..

gh-15...

15 - Olympia winners..

2005-2020...

you see something comon there? lol

there was even a Persian in the third spot ;)

god works in mysterious ways my friendly friends



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lion of Judah


Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: Bose88 on September 15, 2019, 04:53:23 PM
dexjax proved without a doubt he is the best bodybuilder to ever walk earth

congrats to brandon curry.. finally brought up the legs lol when he was a kido in 2007-2008 I really couldn't see mr o in him but with oxygen gymnasium.. a wife that is all about fitness and stable environment including the helpful fact of being American.. unlike ramo.. he is the winner..

gh-15...

15 - Olympia winners..

2005-2020...

you see something comon there? lol

there was even a Persian in the third spot ;)

god works in mysterious ways my friendly friends



gh15 approved
lion of Judah

Where do we find pics from the show?

Persians are awesome (I am one)
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 15, 2019, 06:01:31 PM
all over the net like any other things this generation look for.. tons of search engines

also its probably on youtube

show was average at best with dexjax doing the most amazing thing a bodybuilder will ever do.. he surpassed ron colman and stand alone at the top just for the consistency and ability to  nail so many 1-4 spot places in tier 1 competition top 2 competitions.. its simply a huge achievement for a 50 year old.. he could take this thing again next year if he can find a way to sharpen his condition with out losing the legs.. very hard at 51 but you cant say never with him.. he should never retire when placing so high in o for so many years..

I would say retire if you place outside top 6 other than that stay in.. he simply has no reason to retire.. he is the best bodybuilder on the planet today.. yes he is better than brandon and roden if 100%

amaing what a 50 year old individual can do and its so rare that it should really be consider in history books for the best achievement of a bodybuilder period

hadi.. I don't know about him.. he is just like all middle easterns.. no consistency due to too much reliance on drugs so hard to tell with them.. he used the right time to nail a third place so good for him

if kuklo the (old) kid lol nail it they will all be wiped off Jason cutler style but kuklo the kid is 2 dimensional for some reason when he get in condition he flattens out.. I blame danta and sons for that.. should have followed me from the start

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: tdawgs on September 15, 2019, 06:54:00 PM
All I can say is this: god I miss the 90's bodybuilding.

Your telling me, even the 00's I miss and thats saying something.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: el testosteron on September 15, 2019, 08:28:51 PM
gh15,

When you look at Hadi, do you see insulin at all?
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 15, 2019, 08:29:58 PM
yes all mr o competitors use insulin

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 15, 2019, 08:34:11 PM
All I can say is this: god I miss the 90's bodybuilding.

Your telling me, even the 00's I miss and thats saying something.

the 00s in particular the whole decade.. was great for bodybuild.. its the decade where it all maxed out.. 2009 is the last time you could see a bodybuild that could resemble and match head to head with the 1990s bodybuild.. and that bodybuild was Jason cutler 2009 o.. this was it.. he was also in the 90s but the 2000s were the last of it

2012-2013 put a stamp on it with ramo in the ny pro.. and that was it! after that everything changed

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 15, 2019, 08:44:40 PM
It's astonishing to think that in the 90's every single  Mr. O participant looked incredible. It was very hard to tell who was the best. Nowadays it seems they pick the one that looks the least shitty of them all.

Respect to them where it's due, as I wil never achieve anything remotely to that level, but come one... let's be honest. From a bodybuilding fan perspective.

The 00's were also good compared to this. For me it ended in the time where Ronnie got pregnant with a triplet (the gut) and all the rest followed.


ron 2004 2005 mr o is underrated.. really 2003-2004-2005 ron colman man oh man this is the biggest you will ever see a bodybuilder in top condition no one will ever match it.. no one

2004-2005 is where bodybuild maxed pure sheer size wise/condition combo.. DESPITE THE PREGO gut.. he was so damn huge so damn developed so damn STRONG looking and he was extremely strong as you know.. that even though he used to have bitch tits from here to Australia and back.. even though his bitch tits could be legit size a-b titonas on a hot girl.. nothing mattered.. why? because BECAUSE it was legit muscle tissue on that frame.. it was the real deal.. yes with igf.. but the real deal.. he put the work in the gymnasium with heavy ass weight... and he is paying the price now.. heavy price!

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: brock8282 on September 15, 2019, 09:25:00 PM
Men?s open was pretty disappointing this year. A real lack of wow factor. Those guys from 02 gym just seem to refuse to come in absolutely shredded.

I honestly had Hadi winning, he seemed most deserving, was really surprised they put Bonac over him. I understand the curry win, the dudes shape is unreal, but Bonac at second? 🤷‍♀️ I thought this Olympia was a very bad Bonac package.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: Thijs on September 15, 2019, 11:00:56 PM
90's till mid '00 was the best for size and condition. None can match that level these days, yet we know alot more about nutrition and drugs.
Even in the 70's and 80's they had that crisp hard chest. I see none of that in open bodybuilding class this year. Big yes, round yes, but not enough definiton. Not that Kevin Levrone or Lie Priest type shredded and thickness.

Classic was more appealing to watch. Cbum and Breon looked amazing.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 16, 2019, 04:40:20 AM
Men?s open was pretty disappointing this year. A real lack of wow factor. Those guys from 02 gym just seem to refuse to come in absolutely shredded.

I honestly had Hadi winning, he seemed most deserving, was really surprised they put Bonac over him. I understand the curry win, the dudes shape is unreal, but Bonac at second? 🤷‍♀️ I thought this Olympia was a very bad Bonac package.

the placings was correct in my opinion.. I would maybe give dex second place just because it was all pretty close in the overall averagness of the competition.. but 2 3 4 in this competition all the same aside from the money aspect lol

its amazing a 50 year old can place for so long top 6 on o stage.. just crazy

hell im saying top 6 lol he is top 4 lfor so many years and now he is really old lol its just unreal lol

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 16, 2019, 04:47:14 AM
90's till mid '00 was the best for size and condition. None can match that level these days, yet we know alot more about nutrition and drugs.
Even in the 70's and 80's they had that crisp hard chest. I see none of that in open bodybuilding class this year. Big yes, round yes, but not enough definiton. Not that Kevin Levrone or Lie Priest type shredded and thickness.

Classic was more appealing to watch. Cbum and Breon looked amazing.

2009 Jason cutler.. this was it.. i guess it can be counted as part of the 2006-2009 Jason cutler champ mid 2000s zone.. even though its officially later in the 2000s when he was at his top both in the placing and total package

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: Chris on September 16, 2019, 04:54:04 AM
I think Hadi should of won it or even come second at the very least..
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 16, 2019, 04:59:09 AM
leg wise was prime

delts fucked him.. just looked awkward something in the upper torse didn't flow right.. probably height related but yes third place was right for him in this VERY average field

kai greene for example would have won this o EASILY

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: DrX on September 16, 2019, 05:52:58 AM
My quick two cents. I had Curry first, Hadi second. As much as I like Chris Bumstead, and wanted him to win, he did not deserve it yesterday. He came in flat and thin. Conditioning was there, but his new protocol had him losing some significant three-dimensional thickness, and hardness. Not a fan of his new dieting system and coaching...

DrX
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: Thijs on September 16, 2019, 05:56:12 AM
Phil Viz posted a video regarding the average line up this year. He says high HGH Globalge is responsible for the lack of definition in open class. High dose thickens the skin over time, which in turn blurs the lines, regardless of bf percentage.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: brock8282 on September 16, 2019, 07:24:34 AM
My quick two cents. I had Curry first, Hadi second. As much as I like Chris Bumstead, and wanted him to win, he did not deserve it yesterday. He came in flat and thin. Conditioning was there, but his new protocol had him losing some significant three-dimensional thickness, and hardness. Not a fan of his new dieting system and coaching...

DrX

his kidney problems had him keeping protein really low in prep, believe it was under 200g throughout, think that hurt him, seemed smaller. still loved his shape though.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: tdawgs on September 16, 2019, 08:25:31 AM
The olympia has let me down for the last 5-6 years at least. Every year I believe it will be different.

Ramo NY pro win was the last time I was 'wowed' at bodybuilding. The 00's everyone came in. yesterday reminded me of those that were out of the top ten back in 00's with the smoothness.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: DaddyRabbit on September 16, 2019, 10:17:36 AM
The olympia has let me down for the last 5-6 years at least. Every year I believe it will be different.

Ramo NY pro win was the last time I was 'wowed' at bodybuilding. The 00's everyone came in. yesterday reminded me of those that were out of the top ten back in 00's with the smoothness.
Was Ramo on legit Kigs for the NY pro win? He looked absolutely amazing. When he hit his poses it was lights out. Probably lights out at prejudging of that show.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: tdawgs on September 16, 2019, 01:13:42 PM
The olympia has let me down for the last 5-6 years at least. Every year I believe it will be different.

Ramo NY pro win was the last time I was 'wowed' at bodybuilding. The 00's everyone came in. yesterday reminded me of those that were out of the top ten back in 00's with the smoothness.
Was Ramo on legit Kigs for the NY pro win? He looked absolutely amazing. When he hit his poses it was lights out. Probably lights out at prejudging of that show.

100% he was, all you have to do is look at any pro show from now till back then. You would think Ramo would of gotten better since 2013... it is no 2019 and has he?

It was magic in a vial.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 16, 2019, 06:15:29 PM
Phil Viz posted a video regarding the average line up this year. He says high HGH Globalge is responsible for the lack of definition in open class. High dose thickens the skin over time, which in turn blurs the lines, regardless of bf percentage.

I wonder who he learned it from..  :-\ ::) lol

who is phil viz? lol Philip heath?

but really the reason the level is lower is because everyone can do bodybuild now days and do well due to the lower level.. its in everything.. singing.. movies.. look around you open eyes

when was last time you heard a band like pearl jam or nirvana or metalica or eurythmics or even damn duran duran lol im not even talking about queen level lol I haven't heard quality in anything in ANY art in the last 5 years literally zero since 2015

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 16, 2019, 06:18:25 PM
The olympia has let me down for the last 5-6 years at least. Every year I believe it will be different.

Ramo NY pro win was the last time I was 'wowed' at bodybuilding. The 00's everyone came in. yesterday reminded me of those that were out of the top ten back in 00's with the smoothness.
Was Ramo on legit Kigs for the NY pro win? He looked absolutely amazing. When he hit his poses it was lights out. Probably lights out at prejudging of that show.

whatever was inside of those legit kigs.. ramo was on the for the 2013 ny pro.. I don't know if they saved it from 2012 or what since last time I was on them it was summer 2012..

that was by far but BY FAR the best product in bodybuild history

let me say it again.. BY FAR!

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 16, 2019, 06:19:46 PM
The olympia has let me down for the last 5-6 years at least. Every year I believe it will be different.

Ramo NY pro win was the last time I was 'wowed' at bodybuilding. The 00's everyone came in. yesterday reminded me of those that were out of the top ten back in 00's with the smoothness.
Was Ramo on legit Kigs for the NY pro win? He looked absolutely amazing. When he hit his poses it was lights out. Probably lights out at prejudging of that show.

100% he was, all you have to do is look at any pro show from now till back then. You would think Ramo would of gotten better since 2013... it is no 2019 and has he?

It was magic in a vial.

2013 NY PRO ramo would have won 2019 mr o

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: Thijs on September 16, 2019, 07:33:00 PM
Phil Viz posted a video regarding the average line up this year. He says high HGH Globalge is responsible for the lack of definition in open class. High dose thickens the skin over time, which in turn blurs the lines, regardless of bf percentage.

I wonder who he learned it from..  :-\ ::) lol

who is phil viz? lol Philip heath?

but really the reason the level is lower is because everyone can do bodybuild now days and do well due to the lower level.. its in everything.. singing.. movies.. look around you open eyes

when was last time you heard a band like pearl jam or nirvana or metalica or eurythmics or even damn duran duran lol im not even talking about queen level lol I haven't heard quality in anything in ANY art in the last 5 years literally zero since 2015

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Really? He worked with Matt Porter, and now is a coach himself.

Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 16, 2019, 08:30:38 PM
^looks incredible.. very good

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: chubbybaby on September 17, 2019, 09:03:32 PM
Crazy results! Next year should be more hype and media this one kinda rolled under the radar
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: Bose88 on September 17, 2019, 10:15:06 PM
Crazy results! Next year should be more hype and media this one kinda rolled under the radar

why/how would next year have more hype?
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: tdawgs on September 18, 2019, 12:12:45 PM
Nex year you have the potential of 4 previous mr o being on the same stage with phillip, brandon, dexjax (maybe) and also maybe shawn depending what happens with him. Kai who knows, and now everyone knowing that the conditioning part once again was off from practically all competitors.

Next year they know what to beat and how disapointing this O was, will light a fire in all the competitors and even future competitors to really have a crack at 2020.

The press conferences for example during the late 90's early to mid 00's were fantastic. The hunger, the ego's, were just on another level then.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 18, 2019, 04:44:55 PM
kai is done really.. too out of it too much into trying to make it in art out side bodybuild

kuklo the old kid though.. they are waiting for next year to see if he can bring a top 3 and then have a go at it as mr o for good number of years

the ifbb want kuklo to be the next Jason and phillip.. this is what everyone in the ifbb hope for

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: DrX on September 19, 2019, 02:16:01 AM
Watching this years Mr Olympia was difficult for me personally. Especially when you compare to what was witnessed in the 90's and early 2000's. But the show this weekend was by far the worst Ive seen to date.. From the horrific conditioning, to the stage lighting. Where do I begin... Well I don't have to. Someone was reading my mind....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfHEHeb6Oso

DrX
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: brock8282 on September 19, 2019, 02:53:34 AM
kai is done really.. too out of it too much into trying to make it in art out side bodybuild

kuklo the old kid though.. they are waiting for next year to see if he can bring a top 3 and then have a go at it as mr o for good number of years

the ifbb want kuklo to be the next Jason and phillip.. this is what everyone in the ifbb hope for

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I just don?t see Kuklo ever getting there, this top 6 I assume will be the best finish he ever has.
I?m excited to see Brandon Curry continue to develop, I think he is going to get better and better. Flex Lewis in the open next year will be exciting, especially comparing him to Hadi. The 212 match up we never got to see at the O. It?s to bad Flex took the year off, he probably could have gave Brandon a run for his money at the title.

With those guys mentioned,  and also some other new comers, I think the future is bright in the sport.  I?m can?t wait to see how Patrick Moore and Luke Sandoe develop in the years to come. Plus I really like Ian Valliere (probably spelled wrong) I think he has top 5 O potential. And let?s not forgot the young kid Regan Grimes. A new class of contenders is on there way in.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 19, 2019, 04:09:02 AM
Watching this years Mr Olympia was difficult for me personally. Especially when you compare what was witnessed in the 90's and early 2000's. But the show this weekend was by far the worst Ive seen to date.. From the horrific conditioning, to the stage lighting. Where do I begin... Well I don't have to. Someone was reading my mind....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfHEHeb6Oso

DrX

2008 and 2009 olympia were very good so it wasn't only early to mid 2000s it was ALL tru 2000s a big mention goes to mustaf and gustav periods that were very good.. the level presented was GREAT! 

it ended when philsulina started winning as I said before.. philsulina although my pupil and the wannabe gh15 piano that in 2014 had couple years of imitating me.. those are the years that burried bodybuild as you knew it and the result is the decline you see.. of course it goes hand in hand with the Hussein surveillance police state regime and the damage they caused to the west but thats a different thread

why did I never like philsulina is because he was never really a bodybuilder.. he was a sponge.. a drug sponge nothing more and nothing less period end of case  and its not true to other bodybuilders out there from 2000s and 1990s that had a heavy lifting foundation and then in addition were very good responders


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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: Hanzo7 on September 21, 2019, 11:46:26 AM
I can't believe Brandon won with those shitty ass legs. I actually couldn't believe it. Hadi Choopan in comparison to Brandon Curry only flaws/lack of flaws he had were very marginal. However, the biggest biggest biggest difference that could not be overlooked in any pose was Curry's shit ass legs. They were the worst fucking things I have ever seen similar to a stick figure. No quads. No calf's. No hamstrings. I'm surprised he finished top 3. That was just distasteful I'm not going to lie. Hadi Choopan should have won.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: Hanzo7 on September 21, 2019, 11:48:50 AM
And I know I may sound harsh but Brandon Curry's legs were REALLY that bad. They weren't even okay enough to hang. It was like a glaring flaw. Fuck me I can't believe he won. It's a disgrace.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 21, 2019, 07:17:38 PM
put picture because the champ had pretty good legs from what I remember.. he brought them up big time.. but mr o is won based on over all flow now days and ofcourse based on being American

put comparison pictures to show what you are trying to explain

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: Hanzo7 on September 22, 2019, 07:08:26 AM
put picture because the champ had pretty good legs from what I remember.. he brought them up big time.. but mr o is won based on over all flow now days and ofcourse based on being American

put comparison pictures to show what you are trying to explain

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No man. You can't have "flow" if you bring classic physique calibre legs to men's open division. Can't find a picture, but here is a video comparing all poses between Hadi and Brandon. Look how shit Brandon's legs are ESPECIALLY IN BACK DOUBLE BICEP pose. No hamstrings, no glutes, no calves.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cNLBycSu_vw
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 22, 2019, 08:59:06 AM
^you know you can put pictures here.. there are icon on top to put pictures

hadi choopan who does have a very good last name that remind me a classical composer name.. .. .. can not win o with arms that are no better than who? ALLLLL TOGETHER NOW MY FRIENDS

SHARI KAMALI!

he is also Persian

sadly many in that region have no arms when compared to the rest of their body.. they are very strong in the delt and torse department but their arms are just average.. middle eastern guys have average to sub average arms.. the arms are shaped badly and are t-rex like.. yes branch warren was too and was American but many middle eastern including jewish israelies are weak in the arm department

i still rememember when admin account  asked me back in the day about how to improve his arms since everything else was very good.. i never forget a single thing that been told me along the years

ill be quite honest with you i think all top 3 wouldn't have their pro card if competed in an earlier decades.. 2000s.. 1990s.. they just would be top amatuers and fight with palumbo and friends but no pro cards would be given to any of the top 3.. and this is why i believe dexjax should have won because the field is THAT weak

and the fact that nick and strength made out of youtube over a MILLION DOLLAR... should tell you something about the sport.. i never heard of him to be honest but a 20 something year old that have no experience in the sport should not make a million dollar.. why does he do make it? look around you.. look at the generation.. it is mentally ill ssri generation that can not function without a surveilled "smart" phone

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: Hanzo7 on September 22, 2019, 11:07:52 PM
^you know you can put pictures here.. there are icon on top to put pictures

hadi choopan who does have a very good last name that remind me a classical composer name.. .. .. can not win o with arms that are no better than who? ALLLLL TOGETHER NOW MY FRIENDS

SHARI KAMALI!

he is also Persian

sadly many in that region have no arms when compared to the rest of their body.. they are very strong in the delt and torse department but their arms are just average.. middle eastern guys have average to sub average arms.. the arms are shaped badly and are t-rex like.. yes branch warren was too and was American but many middle eastern including jewish israelies are weak in the arm department

i still rememember when admin account  asked me back in the day about how to improve his arms since everything else was very good.. i never forget a single thing that been told me along the years

ill be quite honest with you i think all top 3 wouldn't have their pro card if competed in an earlier decades.. 2000s.. 1990s.. they just would be top amatuers and fight with palumbo and friends but no pro cards would be given to any of the top 3.. and this is why i believe dexjax should have won because the field is THAT weak

and the fact that nick and strength made out of youtube over a MILLION DOLLAR... should tell you something about the sport.. i never heard of him to be honest but a 20 something year old that have no experience in the sport should not make a million dollar.. why does he do make it? look around you.. look at the generation.. it is mentally ill ssri generation that can not function without a surveilled "smart" phone

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I tried to find pictures on the internet but couldn't find any. I could only find old ones from the Arnold Classic etc. The only thing I could find was this video showing all poses.

Yeah, I don't care about Nick's Strength or any other YouTube videos nowadays. I only use this forum for my knowledge. However, like I said I could only find this video with all the poses.

Yeah, the whole lineup sucked except for Hadi. I really like his physique and he has a lot of great body parts. Good midsection, good conditioning, sick quads and legs in general. I believe he had way more flow than Curry. Curry's legs were just an embarrassment. Sure, Hadis arms may not be super freaky and T Rex like but then again he's a short guy like Dexter Jackson, who also isn't the biggest mass monster on stage but definitely has a good proportions. So just because Hadi isn't as big as Curry in some areas, he's way more complete. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: liucas2 on September 27, 2019, 09:04:41 AM
completly agree and imo hadi was the best one there, sure brandon, dexter, willian bonac where also good, but imo hadi was better
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 27, 2019, 02:54:45 PM
they will never let none American win it.. the first priority is American.. they didn't let ramo win and he really should have

ifbb is now waiting on kuklo the old geezer kid lol to make it happen.. they want him wining it

its not right though everyone should have same opportunity to become mr o

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Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: warriorofzion on September 28, 2019, 01:44:32 AM
This Kid has the upper half but his legs to come up, but I am wit you the IFBB strokes Kuclo.

Cutler in his newly created IFBB job ambassador is always talking about his potential. Even Polumbo constantly talks of his shape and potential.
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: Epy0nnn on September 28, 2019, 02:06:39 AM
What happened to Phil Heath?
Title: Re: next mr o
Post by: gh15 on September 28, 2019, 05:01:58 AM
This Kid has the upper half but his legs to come up, but I am wit you the IFBB strokes Kuclo.

Cutler in his newly created IFBB job ambassador is always talking about his potential. Even Polumbo constantly talks of his shape and potential.

ifbb has hard on for kuklo the old kid lol

he just doenst bring it to where he should be.. but this time he did.. he nailed top 6.. lets see if he can nail top 4..  there wont be anyone happier than steve and jim if kuklo (who is no longer a kid what so ever lol even though the age is still kidish lol) won the show for few years in a row..

he was supposed to come with president trump..

maybe second term

ron colman.. man oh man you i doubt we will see bodybuilders like pre 2010s even again.. hard for me to see Olympia like 2005 or 2004 or 2003 or before hand coming back to life with that quality.. just wont happen

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